Let me know when you have an afternoon free and a place in mind.
When you've been together that long, I imagine it's a more natural state of affairs. [You know. For Stand users whose Stands don't even have the potential to kill them.] It feels longer than that, but I've only had Purple Haze for three years.
I don't have a very busy schedule. As for an area, we could probably head a short distance out of the city. There's plenty of open areas, and I doubt a lot of people are wandering around there regularly.
Three years is still longer than some. Buccellati mentioned once that being born as a Stand user was much less common than I had assumed, and I know of at least one person who had barely had his own Stand for a matter of days or weeks when we met.
That would be fit the criteria nicely. I've heard the local wildlife can be aggressive but, well. Between the two of us I'm sure it would be fine.
Of all the Stand users I've met, I believe you're the only one who's had a Stand for "our entire life". I take it that you've met others like yourself?
Polnareff was born with Chariot as far as I'm aware, and we knew one other person like us. I always just assumed that was how most Stand users worked until I was told about the arrow.
[Fugo's briefly glad that that they're having this particular part of the conversation over the watches. He's not sure he would have been able to keep his expression still after hearing that about Polnareff. Not after what happened to him in Rome.
He makes the mental note to ask Giorno how much Kakyoin knows about the events of April 5th and 6th, 2001.]
From what I understand, the arrow awakens those who have the "potential". I wonder how and why it's possible for some people (yourself, Polnareff, your friend) to be born with the ability already awakened. Or why it awakens for others later in life. Or why it might never awaken, if not for the arrow.
[He knew enough, and 'enough' was all he needed to know it wasn't something he wanted to think about.]
The one example I mentioned of a newer Stand user was sort of extenuating circumstances, that much I can tell you. I think the potential you're talking about could also possibly be hereditary in certain cases--neither of my parents have Stands, but I know of instances where both a parent and child have or developed one.
[Giorno, for example.]
Going from a line of logic such as that, I could theorize that it's a matter of several factors: the willpower necessary to control one, a possible genetic predisposition, and/or simply random chance on the latter combined with an incidental case of the former.
I don't really know much about the arrow itself, either. Can you tell me anything specific about it?
Edited (hours later i realized i forgot how to english) Date: 2016-07-14 04:53 am (UTC)
I've met similar instances, but they seem to be rare. Although that might not be correct, considering how relatively young most of Italia's Stand users are. Most of them haven't yet had the chance to have children.
[Fugo's mind first jumps to Trish and Diavolo, who is an example of a child of a Stand user--and someone whose Stand was awoken by means other than the arrow.]
I wonder how common it is for the children of Stand users to have the potential. Is it something that can be handed down to every child, or specific ones? Are there Stand users with children who don't have the potential? Is the potential something that can skip generations? How young can someone be for their Stand to awaken?
It's a shame there's so little data. There's just not enough to make meaningful statistic conclusions.
[Ah, the arrow.]
I'm afraid I don't know much about its origins, just some of its properties. But here is what I do know:
1) Being stabbed, cut, or scratched by the arrow has one of three effects. Effect A: If the subject has the potential, their Stand will be awakened. Effect B: If the subject does not have the potential, they will die. Effect C: If the subject already has a Stand, their Stand will "evolve".
2) If one survives being stabbed with the arrow the wound, no matter how fatal, will be healed once the arrow is removed. No scar will be left behind.
3) The part of the arrow that has these properties is the arrowhead itself. The shaft is completely safe to handle.
4) They are very, very, very old. Few of them remain in the world.
Fascinating. I can't speak to the genetic aspect, but I'm very interested in the existence of the arrow. Or arrows, such as it is. Is that how most of Passione developed their Stands?
Honestly, I'm curious--but in the opposite direction. Although it's safe to say that a vast majority of Passione's Stand users awakened to their Stands because of the arrow, I'm certain there must have been some who awakened naturally.
I'm afraid I don't have nearly enough experience to know for certain. From the sound of things, people like Polnareff and myself would be in the minimum--but as it stands there's no way to be sure without accurate statistics to measure.
It's too bad. Back home, this is something I would have the data to investigate but little time to research. Here, I have nothing but time but very little data.
It's an fascinating discussion, at least. [A pause, then:] I've never really met someone interested in this sort of thing.
It's unfortunate, but I suppose we just have to work with the limited data we have.
I'm in a similar situation. This city is the first I've had any time to really consider different Stands as well as the concept of them in general. The subject's a fascinating one to me, but you're the first that's been as interested as I am.
[...except probably Carlos. Carlos is odd, bless his scientific heart.]
Most people are satisfied with "how" and don't worry so much about the "why". Which isn't a bad way of thinking, in our way of life.
[Don't get him wrong. Fugo cares a great deal for his mafia friends. But, bless their hearts, none of them (with the exception of Giorno) are or were all that interested in nerd talk.]
Regardless. I look forward to working with you on investigating the subject.
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Date: 2016-07-12 11:02 pm (UTC)When you've been together that long, I imagine it's a more natural state of affairs. [You know. For Stand users whose Stands don't even have the potential to kill them.] It feels longer than that, but I've only had Purple Haze for three years.
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Date: 2016-07-12 11:12 pm (UTC)Three years is still longer than some. Buccellati mentioned once that being born as a Stand user was much less common than I had assumed, and I know of at least one person who had barely had his own Stand for a matter of days or weeks when we met.
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Date: 2016-07-13 06:23 pm (UTC)Of all the Stand users I've met, I believe you're the only one who's had a Stand for "our entire life". I take it that you've met others like yourself?
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Date: 2016-07-13 06:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-14 01:55 am (UTC)He makes the mental note to ask Giorno how much Kakyoin knows about the events of April 5th and 6th, 2001.]
From what I understand, the arrow awakens those who have the "potential". I wonder how and why it's possible for some people (yourself, Polnareff, your friend) to be born with the ability already awakened. Or why it awakens for others later in life. Or why it might never awaken, if not for the arrow.
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Date: 2016-07-14 02:02 am (UTC)The one example I mentioned of a newer Stand user was sort of extenuating circumstances, that much I can tell you. I think the potential you're talking about could also possibly be hereditary in certain cases--neither of my parents have Stands, but I know of instances where both a parent and child have or developed one.
[Giorno, for example.]
Going from a line of logic such as that, I could theorize that it's a matter of several factors: the willpower necessary to control one, a possible genetic predisposition, and/or simply random chance on the latter combined with an incidental case of the former.
I don't really know much about the arrow itself, either. Can you tell me anything specific about it?
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Date: 2016-07-16 11:45 pm (UTC)[Fugo's mind first jumps to Trish and Diavolo, who is an example of a child of a Stand user--and someone whose Stand was awoken by means other than the arrow.]
I wonder how common it is for the children of Stand users to have the potential. Is it something that can be handed down to every child, or specific ones? Are there Stand users with children who don't have the potential? Is the potential something that can skip generations? How young can someone be for their Stand to awaken?
It's a shame there's so little data. There's just not enough to make meaningful statistic conclusions.
[Ah, the arrow.]
I'm afraid I don't know much about its origins, just some of its properties. But here is what I do know:
1) Being stabbed, cut, or scratched by the arrow has one of three effects. Effect A: If the subject has the potential, their Stand will be awakened. Effect B: If the subject does not have the potential, they will die. Effect C: If the subject already has a Stand, their Stand will "evolve".
2) If one survives being stabbed with the arrow the wound, no matter how fatal, will be healed once the arrow is removed. No scar will be left behind.
3) The part of the arrow that has these properties is the arrowhead itself. The shaft is completely safe to handle.
4) They are very, very, very old. Few of them remain in the world.
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Date: 2016-07-16 11:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-17 12:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-17 12:51 am (UTC)[...Suddenly a lot of things about Dio's followers made sense.]
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Date: 2016-07-17 02:02 am (UTC)So, yes. It was a very effective method.
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Date: 2016-07-17 02:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-17 02:07 am (UTC)I wonder what the numbers would look like.
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Date: 2016-07-17 02:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-17 02:14 am (UTC)It's an fascinating discussion, at least. [A pause, then:] I've never really met someone interested in this sort of thing.
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Date: 2016-07-17 02:19 am (UTC)I'm in a similar situation. This city is the first I've had any time to really consider different Stands as well as the concept of them in general. The subject's a fascinating one to me, but you're the first that's been as interested as I am.
[...except probably Carlos. Carlos is odd, bless his scientific heart.]
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Date: 2016-07-17 09:36 pm (UTC)[Don't get him wrong. Fugo cares a great deal for his mafia friends. But, bless their hearts, none of them (with the exception of Giorno) are or were all that interested in nerd talk.]
Regardless. I look forward to working with you on investigating the subject.