are you saying in japan everybody calls everyone else by their last name what the hell why were FRIENDS im not allowed to call you by your first name do you have to swap spit with someone before they get to use it
It's very simple, POLNAREFF. [just gonna casually outline the point there]
Given names imply a certain level of familiarity. I suppose that you could compare it to calling someone by a nickname in most other contexts. Everyone calls me 'Kakyoin' because there's a sense of formality to family names that I prefer. Only my family calls me 'Noriaki'. ['Family' here having a loose definition.]
In Jotaro's case, I don't think he cares that much. When I met him I was already addressing him informally and he never bothered to correct me, so I just kept doing that after things got a little less chaotic.
Did you completely overlook that all of us used each other's last names aside from Jotaro? Constantly? I know you tend to miss details like that, but I thought it was a little obvious.
[Huh! Well. This is interesting, and not something he really thought meant all that much. Japan is weird, and way too weird about shit that isn't all that important, but he's not going to be a dick about it.]
i was following all your lead all right i was the one who joined last
[Names were a little more important to Kakyoin than they were to most people--sure, he liked the distance and formality his last name implied, and he liked that it made the few people who did use his name that much more significant. Jotaro (who tended towards Nori more often than his full first name), Holly, Giorno--he made a note to mention the concept to Caesar at some point, too.]
[It was just a little more than a matter of a simple first name, even so. It was the name he chose for himself and the person he wanted to be rather than the isolated child he used to be. Kakyoin Tenmei was some weird nonentity like some sense of old shame, the reason he'd admit to changing his name 'because he didn't like how it sounded' without going any further into how he disliked the kid that used to carry it.]
[Noriaki was different. Noriaki was something that he'd chosen, proof that if he didn't like something about himself...then he could just work to change it.]
[Which was something he needed to be reminded of more and more often lately.]
Just don't overdo it or anything. After this long it'll be weird to just hear you stop calling me 'Kakyoin' altogether.
[Well. He makes a note of that-- both to use it at all, and to use it sparingly enough. There's something here he's still not getting, he thinks, but perhaps it's a cultural difference.]
GOOD its weird not hearing it anymore i kinda missed it
you think avdol would let me get away with calling him mohammed when he gets here
[Because of course he's coming. He has to. If Kakyoin can come back from the dead, so can Avdol-- and Polnareff will give him time, right, it might take months or a whole year, but he'll come.]
If he sets you on fire again, I'm not putting you out.
[Kakyoin had stopped keeping track of the specific days when Jotaro finally showed up. (By then, it was somewhere in the range of sixty.) Kakyoin himself had arrived in early June, a little before his birthday. And today was April second, so...]
[...that put him at almost a full year of hoping in the back of his mind that he wouldn't be the only one to survive. Which...well, if people like Jonathan and Caesar had come here at various points, it wasn't a hopeless chance to wait for. If they counted Joseph on a matter of a technicality, that meant the whole group from Cairo was in the city apart from Avdol and Iggy now.]
[And oddly enough, he couldn't quite find anything pessimistic about their chances anymore.]
i mean you were under mind control i made a fire clock which was way better than writing a note in two kinds of japanese at least mine was kind of cool
was it polite like "hey if that didnt kill you i sure will soon" did you drape it over him
i still don't understand how the hell that was going to work. that's not how fire works at all, stands or otherwise.
[...seriously that was weird]
i don't remember exactly--i think it just said i was going to kill him with my name signed to it, you'd have to ask jotaro for the details. i know i handed it to him because hierophant had cut his leg knocking him over and told him he could use it as a bandage. we were in front of a bunch of girls so i couldn't exactly just kill him right there, luckily.
it meant i was going to kill him REALLY FAST and then he'd be TOO DEAD to see it hit twelve or something i don't know i half remember it it was like i was drunk i mean YOU know
[The only person who does, honestly.]
so did he do the surgery then or did he corner you later to fight
I know. Most of the time is just a complete blank space to me, and I'm pretty sure I want it to stay that way. I remember most of when I met Jotaro, though the specific details are missing in a few spaces.
I was the first one out to kill him, it wasn't like he even knew Dio sent mind-controlled assassins to begin with. And he didn't even look at the damn thing at first, believe it or not. I didn't realize I was dealing with the most obtuse human being to ever exist.
So...a few things happened, I confronted him directly, he kicked the shit out of me. The next thing I know, I'm waking up on the floor of his house getting that thing pulled out of my head, and he's looking at me like he actually gave a damn whether someone that almost killed him lived or died.
thats our jotaro all right obtuse and caring yare yare
[This is . . . kind of a dark turn to take, and maybe he shouldn't, but it isn't as if this topic is going to come up very much. So might as well bring it up, right?]
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:36 am (UTC)[Goddammit, Mista.]
JUST BECAUSE JOJO LETS EVERYONE DO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S STANDARD PRACTICE
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:37 am (UTC)what the hell
why
were FRIENDS im not allowed to call you by your first name
do you have to swap spit with someone before they get to use it
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:46 am (UTC)It's very simple, POLNAREFF. [just gonna casually outline the point there]
Given names imply a certain level of familiarity. I suppose that you could compare it to calling someone by a nickname in most other contexts. Everyone calls me 'Kakyoin' because there's a sense of formality to family names that I prefer. Only my family calls me 'Noriaki'. ['Family' here having a loose definition.]
In Jotaro's case, I don't think he cares that much. When I met him I was already addressing him informally and he never bothered to correct me, so I just kept doing that after things got a little less chaotic.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:48 am (UTC)but look
i mean ill call you whatever but we're pretty damn familiar
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:51 am (UTC)just don't do it like that. this is important to me, so at least give me the chance to say 'you can call me noriaki if you want to' first.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:54 am (UTC)i was following all your lead all right i was the one who joined last
so
kakyoin
can i use it?
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:13 am (UTC)[Names were a little more important to Kakyoin than they were to most people--sure, he liked the distance and formality his last name implied, and he liked that it made the few people who did use his name that much more significant. Jotaro (who tended towards Nori more often than his full first name), Holly, Giorno--he made a note to mention the concept to Caesar at some point, too.]
[It was just a little more than a matter of a simple first name, even so. It was the name he chose for himself and the person he wanted to be rather than the isolated child he used to be. Kakyoin Tenmei was some weird nonentity like some sense of old shame, the reason he'd admit to changing his name 'because he didn't like how it sounded' without going any further into how he disliked the kid that used to carry it.]
[Noriaki was different. Noriaki was something that he'd chosen, proof that if he didn't like something about himself...then he could just work to change it.]
[Which was something he needed to be reminded of more and more often lately.]
Just don't overdo it or anything. After this long it'll be weird to just hear you stop calling me 'Kakyoin' altogether.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:15 am (UTC)you can call me jean you know
if you want
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:18 am (UTC)But I guess I could do that. Once in a while.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:27 am (UTC)its weird not hearing it anymore
i kinda missed it
you think avdol would let me get away with calling him mohammed when he gets here
[Because of course he's coming. He has to. If Kakyoin can come back from the dead, so can Avdol-- and Polnareff will give him time, right, it might take months or a whole year, but he'll come.]
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:35 am (UTC)[Kakyoin had stopped keeping track of the specific days when Jotaro finally showed up. (By then, it was somewhere in the range of sixty.) Kakyoin himself had arrived in early June, a little before his birthday. And today was April second, so...]
[...that put him at almost a full year of hoping in the back of his mind that he wouldn't be the only one to survive. Which...well, if people like Jonathan and Caesar had come here at various points, it wasn't a hopeless chance to wait for. If they counted Joseph on a matter of a technicality, that meant the whole group from Cairo was in the city apart from Avdol and Iggy now.]
[And oddly enough, he couldn't quite find anything pessimistic about their chances anymore.]
But I don't really think he'd mind that much.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:39 am (UTC)because if he burns me because of it im going to blame you
Noriaki told me i could
& then hed say WHO & id have to explain japanese name shit to him
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:44 am (UTC)its never once come up when we talked
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:47 am (UTC)He probably even saw the stupid death threat I wrote, he knows my damn name
[. . .]
you know what, forget i said that.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:49 am (UTC)you WROTE a death threat
[What the fuck, Kakyoin.]
did you use letters cut out from magazines
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:57 am (UTC)[can you feel the intense facepalm]
no i wrote it in kanji
and annotated it in hiragana
and handed it to jotaro on a handkerchief after pushing him down a flight of stairs
what the fuck was i doing
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:59 am (UTC)i made a fire clock
which was way better than writing a note in two kinds of japanese at least mine was kind of cool
was it polite
like "hey if that didnt kill you i sure will soon"
did you drape it over him
kakyoin i have so many questions
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Date: 2016-04-03 08:03 am (UTC)[...seriously that was weird]
i don't remember exactly--i think it just said i was going to kill him with my name signed to it, you'd have to ask jotaro for the details. i know i handed it to him because hierophant had cut his leg knocking him over and told him he could use it as a bandage. we were in front of a bunch of girls so i couldn't exactly just kill him right there, luckily.
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Date: 2016-04-03 08:04 am (UTC)or something i don't know i half remember it it was like i was drunk
i mean YOU know
[The only person who does, honestly.]
so did he do the surgery then
or did he corner you later to fight
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Date: 2016-04-03 08:10 am (UTC)I was the first one out to kill him, it wasn't like he even knew Dio sent mind-controlled assassins to begin with. And he didn't even look at the damn thing at first, believe it or not. I didn't realize I was dealing with the most obtuse human being to ever exist.
So...a few things happened, I confronted him directly, he kicked the shit out of me. The next thing I know, I'm waking up on the floor of his house getting that thing pulled out of my head, and he's looking at me like he actually gave a damn whether someone that almost killed him lived or died.
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Date: 2016-04-03 08:14 am (UTC)obtuse and caring
yare yare
[This is . . . kind of a dark turn to take, and maybe he shouldn't, but it isn't as if this topic is going to come up very much. So might as well bring it up, right?]
thank god for star and his abilities huh
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