are you saying in japan everybody calls everyone else by their last name what the hell why were FRIENDS im not allowed to call you by your first name do you have to swap spit with someone before they get to use it
It's very simple, POLNAREFF. [just gonna casually outline the point there]
Given names imply a certain level of familiarity. I suppose that you could compare it to calling someone by a nickname in most other contexts. Everyone calls me 'Kakyoin' because there's a sense of formality to family names that I prefer. Only my family calls me 'Noriaki'. ['Family' here having a loose definition.]
In Jotaro's case, I don't think he cares that much. When I met him I was already addressing him informally and he never bothered to correct me, so I just kept doing that after things got a little less chaotic.
Did you completely overlook that all of us used each other's last names aside from Jotaro? Constantly? I know you tend to miss details like that, but I thought it was a little obvious.
[Huh! Well. This is interesting, and not something he really thought meant all that much. Japan is weird, and way too weird about shit that isn't all that important, but he's not going to be a dick about it.]
i was following all your lead all right i was the one who joined last
[Names were a little more important to Kakyoin than they were to most people--sure, he liked the distance and formality his last name implied, and he liked that it made the few people who did use his name that much more significant. Jotaro (who tended towards Nori more often than his full first name), Holly, Giorno--he made a note to mention the concept to Caesar at some point, too.]
[It was just a little more than a matter of a simple first name, even so. It was the name he chose for himself and the person he wanted to be rather than the isolated child he used to be. Kakyoin Tenmei was some weird nonentity like some sense of old shame, the reason he'd admit to changing his name 'because he didn't like how it sounded' without going any further into how he disliked the kid that used to carry it.]
[Noriaki was different. Noriaki was something that he'd chosen, proof that if he didn't like something about himself...then he could just work to change it.]
[Which was something he needed to be reminded of more and more often lately.]
Just don't overdo it or anything. After this long it'll be weird to just hear you stop calling me 'Kakyoin' altogether.
[Well. He makes a note of that-- both to use it at all, and to use it sparingly enough. There's something here he's still not getting, he thinks, but perhaps it's a cultural difference.]
GOOD its weird not hearing it anymore i kinda missed it
you think avdol would let me get away with calling him mohammed when he gets here
[Because of course he's coming. He has to. If Kakyoin can come back from the dead, so can Avdol-- and Polnareff will give him time, right, it might take months or a whole year, but he'll come.]
If he sets you on fire again, I'm not putting you out.
[Kakyoin had stopped keeping track of the specific days when Jotaro finally showed up. (By then, it was somewhere in the range of sixty.) Kakyoin himself had arrived in early June, a little before his birthday. And today was April second, so...]
[...that put him at almost a full year of hoping in the back of his mind that he wouldn't be the only one to survive. Which...well, if people like Jonathan and Caesar had come here at various points, it wasn't a hopeless chance to wait for. If they counted Joseph on a matter of a technicality, that meant the whole group from Cairo was in the city apart from Avdol and Iggy now.]
[And oddly enough, he couldn't quite find anything pessimistic about their chances anymore.]
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:07 am (UTC)five whole days without me
a lot of shit happens in five days
ANYWAY you should show me how
in general
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:09 am (UTC)but fine. it's easy, so i can show you sometime.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:17 am (UTC)and wire
make me emerald earrings i can pretend im your boyfriend
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:28 am (UTC)[On one hand, it was hard to miss. On the other, Polnareff.]
That's not funny.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:31 am (UTC)And someday when you least expect it?
They will explode.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:36 am (UTC)[Goddammit, Mista.]
JUST BECAUSE JOJO LETS EVERYONE DO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S STANDARD PRACTICE
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:37 am (UTC)what the hell
why
were FRIENDS im not allowed to call you by your first name
do you have to swap spit with someone before they get to use it
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:46 am (UTC)It's very simple, POLNAREFF. [just gonna casually outline the point there]
Given names imply a certain level of familiarity. I suppose that you could compare it to calling someone by a nickname in most other contexts. Everyone calls me 'Kakyoin' because there's a sense of formality to family names that I prefer. Only my family calls me 'Noriaki'. ['Family' here having a loose definition.]
In Jotaro's case, I don't think he cares that much. When I met him I was already addressing him informally and he never bothered to correct me, so I just kept doing that after things got a little less chaotic.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:48 am (UTC)but look
i mean ill call you whatever but we're pretty damn familiar
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:51 am (UTC)just don't do it like that. this is important to me, so at least give me the chance to say 'you can call me noriaki if you want to' first.
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Date: 2016-04-03 06:54 am (UTC)i was following all your lead all right i was the one who joined last
so
kakyoin
can i use it?
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:13 am (UTC)[Names were a little more important to Kakyoin than they were to most people--sure, he liked the distance and formality his last name implied, and he liked that it made the few people who did use his name that much more significant. Jotaro (who tended towards Nori more often than his full first name), Holly, Giorno--he made a note to mention the concept to Caesar at some point, too.]
[It was just a little more than a matter of a simple first name, even so. It was the name he chose for himself and the person he wanted to be rather than the isolated child he used to be. Kakyoin Tenmei was some weird nonentity like some sense of old shame, the reason he'd admit to changing his name 'because he didn't like how it sounded' without going any further into how he disliked the kid that used to carry it.]
[Noriaki was different. Noriaki was something that he'd chosen, proof that if he didn't like something about himself...then he could just work to change it.]
[Which was something he needed to be reminded of more and more often lately.]
Just don't overdo it or anything. After this long it'll be weird to just hear you stop calling me 'Kakyoin' altogether.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:15 am (UTC)you can call me jean you know
if you want
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:18 am (UTC)But I guess I could do that. Once in a while.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:27 am (UTC)its weird not hearing it anymore
i kinda missed it
you think avdol would let me get away with calling him mohammed when he gets here
[Because of course he's coming. He has to. If Kakyoin can come back from the dead, so can Avdol-- and Polnareff will give him time, right, it might take months or a whole year, but he'll come.]
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:35 am (UTC)[Kakyoin had stopped keeping track of the specific days when Jotaro finally showed up. (By then, it was somewhere in the range of sixty.) Kakyoin himself had arrived in early June, a little before his birthday. And today was April second, so...]
[...that put him at almost a full year of hoping in the back of his mind that he wouldn't be the only one to survive. Which...well, if people like Jonathan and Caesar had come here at various points, it wasn't a hopeless chance to wait for. If they counted Joseph on a matter of a technicality, that meant the whole group from Cairo was in the city apart from Avdol and Iggy now.]
[And oddly enough, he couldn't quite find anything pessimistic about their chances anymore.]
But I don't really think he'd mind that much.
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Date: 2016-04-03 07:39 am (UTC)because if he burns me because of it im going to blame you
Noriaki told me i could
& then hed say WHO & id have to explain japanese name shit to him
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