The kind that shows how important someone is to you.
[stop this child.]
And not exactly. Japanese has a lot of different ways for someone to refer to themselves; the way Jotaro usually talks is about as informal as you'd expect from him, so he uses phrasing like ore ga sabaku and doesn't really bother with honorifics as far as I know. Depending on who I'm talking to, I prefer speaking a little more politely than he does. If it's just a casual conversation I'd use boku--it's still a casual way to refer to oneself, but a little less rough-sounding.
[So it's probably not outright filthy, right? That's more Polnareff's style than Kakyoin's. Maybe it's the opposite, maybe it's something disgustingly sweet. Either way, Jotaro's going to get it.
Or, hey, maybe not. Maybe he'll use it on someone else-- Suzie, maybe, or Holly. And then when the inevitable screeching began (either from the ladies or Jotaro himself), he could blame Kakyoin. Oh, how could I have known, he told me it showed how important someone was to you!
Uh... [Kakyoin adjusted his glasses, thinking.] A lot; they depend on context, intent, sometimes dialect, things like that. There's more than ten ways to say 'I' specifically, and a lot of words and phrases for second and third person pronouns.
It's a complex language whether written or spoken, I'm afraid. It's not as if I invented it solely to inconvenience you, so don't look like it's my fault.
[He double checks his face, making sure he's actually serious and not just entertaining him. Either is okay, but he doesn't want to invest in something if Kakyoin isn't actually interested.]
Je m'appelle Noriaki, that's the first you gotta know. Nobody's going to take you serious in France if you can't say your name.
[Dirty phrases will come later (and they will, he has every intention of teaching those in a second). But first some basics, because he loves French, he really does.]
[Kakyoin leaned his head on his hand, genuinely interested but a little cautious after having just laid the groundwork for Polnareff to make an idiot of himself.]
Je m'appelle Noriaki, got it. In Japanese that's boku no namae wa and Italian's...mi chiamo, I think.
[He scribbles those both down-- not that he's going to learn them, but he might as well, because he's got the notebook right here. Besides, maybe he can surprise Giorno with some bit of Italian.]
Right, so then-- ah, there's ça va, which can mean anything from are you okay to it's okay, or I'm< okay, things like that. You just say it back to each other-- so tonight, I could've come down and said, oye, Kakyoin, ça va?
[Like he was going to pick the latter, but he had to try.]
Mm, how about . . . ah!
[He leans in on one elbow, a suitably flirtatious expression coming to his face.]
Mon amour pour toi est aussi grand que le monde. That's like saying you love him more than the entire world. Or . . . Ton amour est aussi précieux que l’or. That's comparing your love to gold.
[In fact-- he reaches over, taking Kakyoin's hands in his own. Eyes sincere, expression earnest, heart so clearly swelling with love--!]
Que mes baisers soient les mots d’amour que je ne te dis pas, Kakyoin.
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Date: 2016-05-14 10:07 pm (UTC)[.....also not a lie]
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Date: 2016-05-14 10:10 pm (UTC)[Because he's not entirely naive, okay, he knows who he's talking to.]
And what does-- oh! Is that the whole honorifics thing, is that what you mean?
[You think he'd know more about Japanese after fifty days with them.]
STILL DON'T SPEAK JAPANESE LA LA LA
Date: 2016-05-14 10:21 pm (UTC)[stop this child.]
And not exactly. Japanese has a lot of different ways for someone to refer to themselves; the way Jotaro usually talks is about as informal as you'd expect from him, so he uses phrasing like ore ga sabaku and doesn't really bother with honorifics as far as I know. Depending on who I'm talking to, I prefer speaking a little more politely than he does. If it's just a casual conversation I'd use boku--it's still a casual way to refer to oneself, but a little less rough-sounding.
YOU'RE DOING GREAT
Date: 2016-05-14 11:11 pm (UTC)Or, hey, maybe not. Maybe he'll use it on someone else-- Suzie, maybe, or Holly. And then when the inevitable screeching began (either from the ladies or Jotaro himself), he could blame Kakyoin. Oh, how could I have known, he told me it showed how important someone was to you!
Yeah. Anyway, this is much more interesting.]
How many ways are there?
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-05-14 11:20 pm (UTC)[Fuck that.]
All French has is moi or je, that's more than enough. And I mean, you can tack on polite shit if you really want.
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-05-14 11:26 pm (UTC)[As opposed to, what, the founder of Japanese? Anyway:]
Wanna learn some French?
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-05-14 11:30 pm (UTC)Je m'appelle Noriaki, that's the first you gotta know. Nobody's going to take you serious in France if you can't say your name.
[Dirty phrases will come later (and they will, he has every intention of teaching those in a second). But first some basics, because he loves French, he really does.]
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:36 pm (UTC)Je m'appelle Noriaki, got it. In Japanese that's boku no namae wa and Italian's...mi chiamo, I think.
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:40 pm (UTC)Right, so then-- ah, there's ça va, which can mean anything from are you okay to it's okay, or I'm< okay, things like that. You just say it back to each other-- so tonight, I could've come down and said, oye, Kakyoin, ça va?
And you'd say . . .?
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-05-14 11:45 pm (UTC)[A PLUS KAKYOIN]
It's versatile-- there's no good translation for it, but it's just one of those things you hear a lot. Now--
[Okay, he knows how to say his name and if he's okay, so that's pretty much the basics right there.]
Romantic or dirty? I'll give you a choice.
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:45 pm (UTC)[he knows he deserves this fate]
The former.
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:58 pm (UTC)[Like he was going to pick the latter, but he had to try.]
Mm, how about . . . ah!
[He leans in on one elbow, a suitably flirtatious expression coming to his face.]
Mon amour pour toi est aussi grand que le monde. That's like saying you love him more than the entire world. Or . . . Ton amour est aussi précieux que l’or. That's comparing your love to gold.
[In fact-- he reaches over, taking Kakyoin's hands in his own. Eyes sincere, expression earnest, heart so clearly swelling with love--!]
Que mes baisers soient les mots d’amour que je ne te dis pas, Kakyoin.
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Date: 2016-05-14 11:59 pm (UTC)[are you even for real right now, dude.]
And that means what exactly?
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:00 am (UTC)Does it matter? It all sounds romantic-- that's the best part of French!
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:03 am (UTC)Just don't start flirting with me. I'd be obligated to hit you in the face again.
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:05 am (UTC)[He might as well flirt with both of them, after all.]
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:09 am (UTC)[oh no]
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:12 am (UTC)[He'll cook you spaghetti so hard, you don't even know.]
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:16 am (UTC)[kakyoin you of all people are in no position to mock others' hair]
I still don't understand when he decided trying to fit five cigarettes in his mouth was a trick worth practicing. [OR THAT, FOR THAT MATTER]
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:18 am (UTC)Well, I mean. It is kind of impressive. It's a good bar trick when you can do it with just one.
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Date: 2016-05-15 12:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
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