Going off just that much information, I would guess that meant it was something which had an impact on its user. But I might need a little more context than that to give a proper answer.
You didn't give me much to formulate a proper theory from yet. Even if you did, I may not be the right person to ask. I think Hierophant and I both remember the same things in roughly the same way, so I don't know if my perspective would be of any help to you.
That's pretty easy on paper, but I should preface this with the fact that this is hardly a rigid definition; there are always going to be exceptions and outliers simply by virtue of the fact that every single Stand is different. That said, I see it as a scale:
-Largely independent Stands, possessing a voice and will reflecting their user but also separate from them (Spice Girl, Sex Pistols) -Somewhat independent Stands, reflecting their user's will but with the capability to act for themselves (Star Platinum, Silver Chariot, Gold Experience) This one is what I think the majority commonly fall near or directly under. -Stands lacking independence, either a complete manifestation of their user's will or simply lacking one of their own (Hierophant Green, Hermit Purple)
Not having one myself, I can't say for sure--but I can't imagine a Stand so independent as to think completely separately from its user.
Star once texted me to get me to give him pudding without Jotaro realizing it. I don't really understand the range of things he can do without direct input; for as long as I can remember Hierophant's never done anything even close to that extent. So it's difficult for me to comprehend, but there must be some correlation between a Stand's action and its user's desires.
that there's a correlation between him feeling those conflicting feelings and me . . . my desires? i don't know what those desires would be. i don't want him to feel anything.
Let me frame it a different way, then. Remember the very first night we met? Jotaro accidentally let slip what happened to me, and Hierophant stopped him from leaving.
'Hierophant' did that, not 'Kakyoin'. What I felt was 'don't leave' on some level, and he acted on that.
What I'm getting at is this question: is it possible that what Gold Experience feels is a reflection on your own subconscious?
[He hits send by accident, then throws his watch at the pillow. It feels like a tantrum welling up, no no no; he clenches his fists and wants to throw punches, weak desperate ones against the awful aching realization. But no. It's not Kakyoin's fault. It's his. He should have just asked the direct question. He shouldn't have been afraid of it, but it was and now Kakyoin is talking about him, him and Gold Experience, and he doesn't want to be him and Gold Experience, he doesn't want that.]
[He waits until his fingers stop shaking, then reaches out for the watch again.]
well carlos would agree with you. maybe you should compare notes.
[It comes out more bitter than he means it to. But there's no taking it back, and anyway, he's not sure he wants to take it back at all.]
[He rubs his nose viciously and nods, even though Kakyoin isn't there.]
i'm on my way
this wasn't even what i wanted to talk about you know i was asking about something totally different originally. not him. he always comes up when i don't want him to
[But when he comes, he slinks into the room with his shoulders tight, looking smaller than he is instead of taking up the whole room. Glancing around the room, he sees Kakyoin and ducks his head before coming to sit next to him.]
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Date: 2016-07-25 06:00 am (UTC)what does it mean if a stand feels or remembers something?
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Date: 2016-07-25 06:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-28 07:30 am (UTC)i mean
that sounds rude i'm sorry
i just thought you'd have a more complex theory
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Date: 2016-07-28 07:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-28 07:34 am (UTC)um
all right what if i back up a little
what do you think the different types of stands are? the categories.
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Date: 2016-07-28 07:46 am (UTC)-Largely independent Stands, possessing a voice and will reflecting their user but also separate from them (Spice Girl, Sex Pistols)
-Somewhat independent Stands, reflecting their user's will but with the capability to act for themselves (Star Platinum, Silver Chariot, Gold Experience) This one is what I think the majority commonly fall near or directly under.
-Stands lacking independence, either a complete manifestation of their user's will or simply lacking one of their own (Hierophant Green, Hermit Purple)
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Date: 2016-07-28 07:49 am (UTC)[He doesn't respond to the list for a few moments, thinking. Then:]
when you say "act" for themselves
that's only acting, not thinking. do i understand correctly?
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Date: 2016-07-28 07:54 am (UTC)Star once texted me to get me to give him pudding without Jotaro realizing it. I don't really understand the range of things he can do without direct input; for as long as I can remember Hierophant's never done anything even close to that extent. So it's difficult for me to comprehend, but there must be some correlation between a Stand's action and its user's desires.
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Date: 2016-07-28 07:57 am (UTC)when someone pays attention to him he gets very happy but also worried
do you think that's the same thing?
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Date: 2016-07-28 07:59 am (UTC)Do you think that correlation is there, when he does something like that?
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Date: 2016-07-28 08:05 am (UTC)that there's a correlation between him feeling those conflicting feelings and me . . . my desires? i don't know what those desires would be. i don't want him to feel anything.
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Date: 2016-07-28 08:14 am (UTC)'Hierophant' did that, not 'Kakyoin'. What I felt was 'don't leave' on some level, and he acted on that.
What I'm getting at is this question: is it possible that what Gold Experience feels is a reflection on your own subconscious?
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Date: 2016-07-28 08:22 am (UTC)it's possible, i just don't know what i would be feeling subconsciously that would make him feel two things that are entirely opposite
people are supposed to just feel one thing in one direction
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Date: 2016-07-28 08:30 am (UTC)If he's happy and also worried, that might be
[. . .]
maybe he's afraid of losing that
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Date: 2016-07-28 09:06 am (UTC)[Are you lonely, Gold Experience?]
[He hits send by accident, then throws his watch at the pillow. It feels like a tantrum welling up, no no no; he clenches his fists and wants to throw punches, weak desperate ones against the awful aching realization. But no. It's not Kakyoin's fault. It's his. He should have just asked the direct question. He shouldn't have been afraid of it, but it was and now Kakyoin is talking about him, him and Gold Experience, and he doesn't want to be him and Gold Experience, he doesn't want that.]
[He waits until his fingers stop shaking, then reaches out for the watch again.]
well carlos would agree with you. maybe you should compare notes.
[It comes out more bitter than he means it to. But there's no taking it back, and anyway, he's not sure he wants to take it back at all.]
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Date: 2016-07-28 11:33 am (UTC)[A pause.]
I wasn't trying to assume anything. I hope I didn't go too far or say something I shouldn't have.
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Date: 2016-07-28 04:51 pm (UTC)i'm not angry really i just
i hate other people knowing things about me that i don't know or that i don't want them to know
and i'm tired of thinking about gold experience
i hate thinking about gold experience most of the time
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Date: 2016-07-28 04:54 pm (UTC)i won't push it if you'd rather keep going like this, that's fine
i'd just like to talk about this in person if you're okay with that
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Date: 2016-07-28 04:55 pm (UTC)can i ask why? why in person i mean
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Date: 2016-07-28 04:57 pm (UTC)if i ask 'would you tell me why' i feel like that's not a question you should have to be alone to think about
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Date: 2016-07-28 04:59 pm (UTC)[He rubs his nose viciously and nods, even though Kakyoin isn't there.]
i'm on my way
this wasn't even what i wanted to talk about you know i was asking about something totally different originally. not him. he always comes up when i don't want him to
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Date: 2016-07-28 05:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-28 05:05 pm (UTC)like carlos is thinking about it
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Date: 2016-07-28 05:06 pm (UTC)i'm sorry if i'm prying into something that's none of my business
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Date: 2016-07-28 05:09 pm (UTC)it's fine
i mean
i don't know, never mind
i'll be there soon
[But when he comes, he slinks into the room with his shoulders tight, looking smaller than he is instead of taking up the whole room. Glancing around the room, he sees Kakyoin and ducks his head before coming to sit next to him.]
Buon giorno.
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