It's not that simple. Why do you think it's that simple? Christ, Kakyoin, I've written people off in the few months since I got here, and for less than this. Not much less, but less.
[He lets out a frustrated noise, not sure how to explain it. He just doesn't believe this will turn out. He doesn't believe people will give him the benefit of the doubt like that, because no one ever has — no one he's known in the long term, with the possible exception of Suzie. And she'd be the one in the way of getting hurt, just because he wants to be happy.]
Because people like Jojo and Jotaro aren't fucking normal. People like me, shitty vindictive awful people, those are normal. Common. People who take advantage of other people, those are normal too.
Trusting people is just — a good way to get the shit kicked out of you, even if you haven't done anything wrong. If you do do something wrong and then expect everyone to just forgive you, then you deserve whatever comes of your stupidity.
...You're right. People who take advantage of others exist, and there's a lot of them. [Kakyoin folded his arms, gripping the sleeves of his jacket like there was much more he wanted to say there.] And when you've been hurt by someone like that, someone who uses and discards you--it's harder to trust people. Much, much harder. But just because there's a lot of people like that doesn't mean everyone is. And it doesn't mean that there's no one worth trusting in the world.
Tell me honestly, Caesar; do you think I would turn around and leave if you said or did something that made me angry, or do you think I'm one of those people that isn't 'normal'?
I think everyone has their limits. I think yours are farther out with me than other people's might be. So it would take a lot. But it's not impossible.
I wouldn't betray you like — I just wouldn't. And I wouldn't lie to you. But people like Holly, I think if she saw this as a betrayal, I couldn't even argue with it. I couldn't ask her to trust me again, or forgive me.
My unfortunately short temper aside, I know where my limits are regarding you. It's the same as with my other friends--nothing you could do would make me simply stop caring. But you can believe there's a limit if you don't believe what I'm telling you now. It's a better answer than I anticipated.
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I can't speak for miss Holly and I won't try to. I can't expect something like this will be simple for her, but my own assumption based on what I know is that she cares too much to truly hate anyone.
I almost did. And I was bleeding all over the place. Honestly, my mother would've at least said something about ruining her floor before fixing up someone like that.
I'm trying to say she's absurdly goddamn nice and as long as you're not actively going to the effort of pissing her off directly, I don't think that she'll hate you.
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Date: 2016-04-10 11:35 pm (UTC)[He lets out a frustrated noise, not sure how to explain it. He just doesn't believe this will turn out. He doesn't believe people will give him the benefit of the doubt like that, because no one ever has — no one he's known in the long term, with the possible exception of Suzie. And she'd be the one in the way of getting hurt, just because he wants to be happy.]
[It's not a good enough reason. It's just not.]
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Date: 2016-04-10 11:37 pm (UTC)[That didn't come out as a challenge, no matter how it was worded. All Kakyoin did in response was ask a simple, honest question.]
You're a good teacher--I don't understand it, so explain it to me.
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Date: 2016-04-10 11:41 pm (UTC)Trusting people is just — a good way to get the shit kicked out of you, even if you haven't done anything wrong. If you do do something wrong and then expect everyone to just forgive you, then you deserve whatever comes of your stupidity.
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Date: 2016-04-10 11:49 pm (UTC)Tell me honestly, Caesar; do you think I would turn around and leave if you said or did something that made me angry, or do you think I'm one of those people that isn't 'normal'?
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:01 am (UTC)I think everyone has their limits. I think yours are farther out with me than other people's might be. So it would take a lot. But it's not impossible.
I wouldn't betray you like — I just wouldn't. And I wouldn't lie to you. But people like Holly, I think if she saw this as a betrayal, I couldn't even argue with it. I couldn't ask her to trust me again, or forgive me.
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:07 am (UTC)[...]
I can't speak for miss Holly and I won't try to. I can't expect something like this will be simple for her, but my own assumption based on what I know is that she cares too much to truly hate anyone.
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:12 am (UTC)[He sighs and rubs at his eyes, sitting up a little straighter.]
People who think they can't hate anyone have just been lucky so far. What answer did you expect?
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:20 am (UTC)[He shrugged, looking away.]
Maybe she is. But I don't think she could hate you. Hell, I tried to kill Jotaro and the first thing she did was come over with a first aid kit.
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:32 am (UTC)But even so, in that situation I'd take you up on that.
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:34 am (UTC)Ugh, whatever. None of this has stopped being stupid.
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:40 am (UTC)[. . .]
I have another question. But it's even stupider than everything else, so I don't know if I should ask.
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Date: 2016-04-11 12:47 am (UTC)[uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh]
I can't tell. I mean, if it's the same. For me. I don't know the difference, or at least I don't know the difference like this.
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