Is it? I don't really have much that he'd borrow--the most important thing I own technically belongs to both of us anyway. [Beat.] Then again, Polnareff and I steal each other's earrings once in a while. I never really thought much of it before.
Maybe it's just because I never had anything to share before.
[But his life is full of things now, objects and things less tangible, most of them shared so well that he doesn't know which part is his and which isn't.]
[He rakes his bangs out of his eyes, frowning.]
I'm starting to think that none of the things I'm used to are really normal.
[Kakyoin paused, taking a pen out of his pocket and twirling it idly between his fingers as he put his thoughts in order.]
...If I think about it, the person I was before I met Jojo and the others wasn't really me. It wasn't Tenmei, it wasn't Noriaki, it was just...someone that was kind of empty. My friends--Jojo especially--are as much a necessary part of me as my Hierophant. So things like Polnareff stealing my earrings or borrowing Jotaro's shirt once in a while just kind of come naturally somehow. We each know the other isn't going to be seriously angry about it, and it's something we just want to do or makes us feel better. So we already know it doesn't exactly hurt anything on either side.
[My friends are as much a necessary part of me as my Hierophant.]
[He's a little distant, after Kakyoin is done talking. Is that what it is — that if he had a Stand, whatever it was, it would feel the same way that it does being around Joseph? That same comfort, and without it he'd just feel strange and incomplete. Is it the same?]
[It would be so much easier if he had anything else to compare this to.]
. . . Do you think that's what I am? Empty. Missing something.
No. [The answer came easily, without the need for thought behind it.] I think you're just less desperate and more hesitant to get close to people than I was. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. And it doesn't make you empty or anything of the sort.
Yeah. I'm not so sure I really know what is or isn't 'selfish' anymore. At the very least it's gotten difficult to distinguish the acceptable selfishness from what one should be careful of.
[Kakyoin tilted his head slightly, abruptly stopping in his fidgeting with the pen.]
I won't tell you you're stupid, if that helps. Mostly because I think you can throw a punch much harder than I can. [As flat as he thought that sounded, it was meant as a joke.] But also because I know you aren't.
[Well. Both are true. Even if he feels really stupid right now, and lately in general, he knows he really isn't. There are just some things he's . . . maybe not as good at as he thought he was. Maybe a lot of things. Maybe . . .]
[Maybes aren't good enough. He has to know what to do. But he can't say it, not to anyone really and certainly not to Kakyoin.]
[So.]
[He pinches the bridge of his nose for a moment, trying to figure out how to make the words work right.]
There's . . . I don't know. I have to make this decision.
Someone I know said something to me about how — the way I'm important to them. And it's not as though there's some kind of time pressure to decide, or anything, I just know I have to because it affects more than just us. And I think I know the answer, I know what I want to do. But I also know I shouldn't. I really shouldn't do a lot of things I want to do, because I'm not part of people's lives anymore in the same way I used to be. I'm not part of the future, I mean.
Except every time I say that people get pissed at me and tell me to do whatever I want, even though that's not how the world works. It never has, it never will. Actions have consequences, and just because something would make me happy doesn't mean it's fine to — to hurt other people just for myself.
[. . . nailed it. No one will ever know what he is talking about.]
[He raised an eyebrow slightly--there was no way Caesar could possibly think Kakyoin wouldn't know what any of that meant, was there? ...then again, no one ever said either of them were brilliant when it came to these things.]
[It was almost a relief to understand that Joseph must have finally spoken up himself. Caesar had been just as oblivious as Kakyoin was once; now maybe he could start sorting things out and actually try giving a shit about himself.]
Before I say or do anything to answer that, I want to make this clear. As far as I'm concerned, this conversation won't leave this room. I won't say a word to anyone, especially not Jotaro.
...So if you want me to be straightforward with you about the fact that you and I are in the same place right now in more ways than one, I can do that. Or I can act as though have no idea who or what we're talking about. That's entirely up to you.
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Date: 2016-04-10 02:39 am (UTC)[He thinks about that for a moment, then just shrugs.]
So that's a yes.
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Date: 2016-04-10 02:39 am (UTC)[No point in denying it.]
If it bothered him, I'd know. Or he'd outright tell me to knock it off.
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Date: 2016-04-10 02:49 am (UTC)[But his life is full of things now, objects and things less tangible, most of them shared so well that he doesn't know which part is his and which isn't.]
[He rakes his bangs out of his eyes, frowning.]
I'm starting to think that none of the things I'm used to are really normal.
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Date: 2016-04-10 02:52 am (UTC)[What a pair of disasters they made.]
...I've been thinking the same, occasionally.
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Date: 2016-04-10 02:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-04-10 03:01 am (UTC)[Kakyoin paused, taking a pen out of his pocket and twirling it idly between his fingers as he put his thoughts in order.]
...If I think about it, the person I was before I met Jojo and the others wasn't really me. It wasn't Tenmei, it wasn't Noriaki, it was just...someone that was kind of empty. My friends--Jojo especially--are as much a necessary part of me as my Hierophant. So things like Polnareff stealing my earrings or borrowing Jotaro's shirt once in a while just kind of come naturally somehow. We each know the other isn't going to be seriously angry about it, and it's something we just want to do or makes us feel better. So we already know it doesn't exactly hurt anything on either side.
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:06 am (UTC)[He's a little distant, after Kakyoin is done talking. Is that what it is — that if he had a Stand, whatever it was, it would feel the same way that it does being around Joseph? That same comfort, and without it he'd just feel strange and incomplete. Is it the same?]
[It would be so much easier if he had anything else to compare this to.]
. . . Do you think that's what I am? Empty. Missing something.
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:18 am (UTC)[He's not sure he agrees, but he can't think of a way to say that without sounding self-pitying. So he just doesn't bother. Instead:]
What you were saying before. About being too confident, or not confident enough. Is that related? Does confidence make you less empty, or more?
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-04-10 03:25 am (UTC)Sometimes I wonder if confidence is selfish. Or if selfishness is bad. Or lots of things. I don't know, I—
I miss when I knew, without a doubt, that I was doing the right thing.
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:30 am (UTC)[...]
How've you been doing?
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:40 am (UTC)[. . .]
I don't know how to answer that question. I'm thinking and I don't know.
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:41 am (UTC)[boy didn't he know a rough time when he saw it.]
...You don't have to talk about it if you'd rather not. We can talk about anything.
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:43 am (UTC)I do, but I think if I did it everyone would tell me I was being stupid . . . I don't know.
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Date: 2016-04-10 03:46 am (UTC)I won't tell you you're stupid, if that helps. Mostly because I think you can throw a punch much harder than I can. [As flat as he thought that sounded, it was meant as a joke.] But also because I know you aren't.
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Date: 2016-04-10 08:53 pm (UTC)[Maybes aren't good enough. He has to know what to do. But he can't say it, not to anyone really and certainly not to Kakyoin.]
[So.]
[He pinches the bridge of his nose for a moment, trying to figure out how to make the words work right.]
There's . . . I don't know. I have to make this decision.
Someone I know said something to me about how — the way I'm important to them. And it's not as though there's some kind of time pressure to decide, or anything, I just know I have to because it affects more than just us. And I think I know the answer, I know what I want to do. But I also know I shouldn't. I really shouldn't do a lot of things I want to do, because I'm not part of people's lives anymore in the same way I used to be. I'm not part of the future, I mean.
Except every time I say that people get pissed at me and tell me to do whatever I want, even though that's not how the world works. It never has, it never will. Actions have consequences, and just because something would make me happy doesn't mean it's fine to — to hurt other people just for myself.
[. . . nailed it. No one will ever know what he is talking about.]
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Date: 2016-04-10 09:01 pm (UTC)[It was almost a relief to understand that Joseph must have finally spoken up himself. Caesar had been just as oblivious as Kakyoin was once; now maybe he could start sorting things out and actually try giving a shit about himself.]
Before I say or do anything to answer that, I want to make this clear. As far as I'm concerned, this conversation won't leave this room. I won't say a word to anyone, especially not Jotaro.
...So if you want me to be straightforward with you about the fact that you and I are in the same place right now in more ways than one, I can do that. Or I can act as though have no idea who or what we're talking about. That's entirely up to you.
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Date: 2016-04-10 09:08 pm (UTC)I don't care. You can say whatever you want.
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